I think you have to push your kid, and I think you push them to get them to understand that work ethic. And I think once they understand that work ethic, they're going to do it on their own. If a kid is like 16, 17, and you're like, you gotta work hard and you got to do this and they're still not doing it right. Or if you're really trying to push your kid and they're not doing it... So there's a there's a fine line between how, what you tell me that you want to become. You want to get a division one scholarship. So me as a parent, okay. What are the things my kid needs to be doing to get a division one college, and so it's like, all right, so I'm going to push you to that. I'm going to help you, but I'm not going to do it for you. http://www.solvecast.com/articles/detail/15263-player-parent-and-coach-in-developing-mentally-strong-individuals-with-dawaun-wells-limitless-international-basketball #1738 #parenting